>> you know, i don't think you can do that much about it unless you want to be industrialized china and india and the developing countries. that's the thing. >> two things going on, a progressive moment that only knows how to use fear to get what they want. >> brliant, brilliant. >> and notion of victimization and in in case, third world nation. >> brilliant, brilliant. >> since the end of world war ii, western nations have given poor people around this world 2 trillion dollars, but it doesn't stop the u.n. or phonies like bono and nongovernment organizations for going out there and trying to shame western nations into giving money and by the way the poor nations never get it and someone puts it in their pocket and it's a travesty. i hope people in africa and others resist it, they're embracing capitalism and coming on stronger and stronger, and i hope you-- the more you embrace capitalism the more global warming there'll be. >> we accept that part. >> well, but i don't want to get in an argument about imate change and all, but we do go through weather patterns in cycs and i can remembe